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Offline Milwaukee Midget

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5775 on: March 25, 2016, 03:06:23 PM »
Quote from: Speed Limit 1000 on March 25, 2016, 11:59:36 AM
I have 4 1980 G1 Kaws and a '82 1100 GPZ  with factory FI

More Kaws than a Wisconsin Dairy farm!  :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5776 on: March 25, 2016, 03:24:01 PM »
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Quote from: Speed Limit 1000 on March 25, 2016, 11:59:36 AM
I have 4 1980 G1 Kaws and a '82 1100 GPZ  with factory FI

More Kaws than a Wisconsin Dairy farm!  :cheers:

More Kaw poop too?
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5777 on: March 25, 2016, 04:46:26 PM »
Beware!  :-o :-o :-o
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5778 on: March 25, 2016, 04:56:02 PM »
Quote from: WOODY@DDLLC on March 25, 2016, 04:46:26 PM
Beware!  :-o :-o :-o

Moooove along, road ranger . . .
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5779 on: March 25, 2016, 10:44:47 PM »
Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on March 25, 2016, 03:06:23 PM
Quote from: Speed Limit 1000 on March 25, 2016, 11:59:36 AM
I have 4 1980 G1 Kaws and a '82 1100 GPZ  with factory FI

More Kaws than a Wisconsin Dairy farm!  :cheers:

he has thinned the herd... used to be about a dozen of them  :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5780 on: March 28, 2016, 04:04:29 PM »
midget,

Flatout advises that the head gaskets are finished and ready to be shipped.

I'll have them sent to the ranch.

OBOY!!  Parts!!

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5781 on: March 29, 2016, 06:43:19 AM »
midget,

Injectors arrived on Saturday.    They fit into the holes in the throttle bodies, but might not project far enough into the T/B.   Some pics later.

I've got a plan for a flow bench adaptor, and I am assembling the bits.     I will keep you informed on the progress for Thursday.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5782 on: March 29, 2016, 07:15:17 AM »
midget,

If you do come down on Thursday, can you bring the original injection manifold?   I want to see how far the injectors project into the runners.

I have some Cosworth/Lucas mechanical injection bits we can use to compare.   I know they work OK for bhp.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5783 on: March 29, 2016, 07:54:53 AM »
Quote from: fordboy628 on March 29, 2016, 06:43:19 AM
midget,

Injectors arrived on Saturday.    They fit into the holes in the throttle bodies, but might not project far enough into the T/B.   Some pics later.

I've got a plan for a flow bench adaptor, and I am assembling the bits.     I will keep you informed on the progress for Thursday.

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Workingflatoutboy

Do you want the tip actually protruding into the airflow, or just at the edge of the wall? There are of course, zillions of injectors out there, some with long tips, just a matter of seeing if right size and shape is available. I know Kinsler does some modifications of injectors, probably others as well. Can a tip "extender" be added?
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5784 on: March 29, 2016, 09:14:34 AM »
Or . . .

Mark, is it possible to machine the bosses down to place the injector at a proper height?  :roll:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5785 on: March 29, 2016, 09:32:44 AM »
Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on March 29, 2016, 09:14:34 AM
Or . . .

Mark, is it possible to machine the bosses down to place the injector at a proper height?  :roll:

Unknown @ this point.    I am uncertain of how the injector bosses are held in the throttle bodies.     Maybe they can be pressed out and machined.   Perhaps they can be pressed out and a new and different injector boss substituted.

My thoughts on all of this are on hold until we have the flow numbers.    And unless something is royally screwed up, they should flow OK.

Lucked out on the flow fixture idea.    A 1.25" plumbing repair band clamp has the perfect ID to connect the throttle bodies to the stub pipe flow test fixture.     
Sometimes it's just better to be lucky rather than good.

Aaahh, who am I kidding!!    If I had any luck at all, I'd use it to be a "super-villain".     Way more fun than a "super-hero".

Besides, heroes get taken for granted . . . . . .


                                                                        and there, I am going to stop.

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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5786 on: March 29, 2016, 09:37:39 AM »
Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on March 29, 2016, 09:14:34 AM
Or . . .

Mark, is it possible to machine the bosses down to place the injector at a proper height?  :roll:
This is of course an option. I considered that. The issue may become depending on exactly how the fuel rail is positioned and fixed in place, if moving the injector down (there is some leeway of course, depends on how much) if the fuel rail then interferes with something else or doesn't attach correctly. May then require custom fuel rail. As in fixing one problem causes another.  And I am basing these observations on the ebay photo of the TB assembly. Having parts in hand and measurements makes the answer easy ,of course :)
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5787 on: March 29, 2016, 10:12:04 AM »
Hi, Jack -

I've already conceded the custom fuel rail approach - the 88 mm centerlines dictate that, and the stock fuel rail is made of some sort of plastic reinforced - or shall I say "rein-farced" - tubing.

Besides, it doesn't look "racey".

If I'm going to go through the headache of stuffing a fuel injected DOHC 16V Eurotrash motor under the bonnet, it damned well better look "racey" . . .  :wink: 
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5788 on: March 29, 2016, 10:26:16 AM »
Quote from: Milwaukee Midget on March 29, 2016, 10:12:04 AM
Hi, Jack -

Besides, it doesn't look "racey".

If I'm going to go through the headache of stuffing a fuel injected DOHC 16V Eurotrash motor under the bonnet, it damned well better look "racey" . . .  :wink: 
Well of course!! :cheers:
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Re: Milwaukee Midget
« Reply #5789 on: March 29, 2016, 11:40:50 PM »
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