Milwaukee Midget

[Geo]

Yep, error there somewhere. Perhaps I am not listening to Stan enough. 

I'm with Buddy. Put me down for over!   

Geo

[AJR192]

If it blows, we all owe chris a beer.......

[Milwaukee Midget]

If it blows, we all owe chris a beer.......

Let's see if I can get it that far . . .

Picked up a pail of C14 this morning for Wednesday, along with filters and oil. 

The progress is actually good, despite a pair of minor setbacks – one of which will require me finding a hardware store open on Easter Sunday . . .

The pilot bushing is done, and it fits perfectly – a couple of taps with the ol’ rubber hammer and bingo . . .



The drive adapter fits like some flatlander CUSTOM DESIGNED IT!  The problem is that the bolts I acquired for it are a smidgen too long – I thought the flywheel was tapped all the way through – not the case – so it’s off to whoever is open tomorrow.

I took my handy 4 ounce syringe and filled the oil galleries, poured some oil down through the lifters and finished the fill through the distributor hole.  I then loosened up the rockers, removed the plugs and gave it a crank with the drill.  Yeah, oil is flowing where it should be, so I went back to readjust the lifters and . . .  snap!  Now this was just one of those, “oh, for pity’s sake” moments . . .   


 

Fortunately, after the valve train tried to munch itself last September, I ordered up a complete set of adjusters, so I was able to dig out one of the spares, which for reasons completely out of character with my normal MO, were neatly tagged and bagged right where I had put them, and where I remembered I had put them. 

But how was I going to get it out without removing the rocker shaft, which is held in place with head studs?

Well, after watching Fordboy use his ultra slick valve spring compressor last year, I went on E-bay and hunted down one for myself.  With a little adjustment, I was able to compress the valve side of the rocker and not even have to remove the shaft . . .



The only thing better than having the right tool for the right job is having the wrong tool, but it works anyway.

[fordboy628]

If it blows, we all owe chris a beer.......

Let's see if I can get it that far . . .

Picked up a pail of C14 this morning for Wednesday, along with filters and oil.    updates to dyno checklist recorded

The progress is actually good, despite a pair of minor setbacks – one of which will require me finding a hardware store open on Easter Sunday . . .      kind of like a monkey bite. . (sure hope that monkey doesn't have a virus. . .  )

The pilot bushing is done, and it fits perfectly – a couple of taps with the ol’ rubber hammer and bingo . . .     nothin' quite as satisfying as thinkin' ahead. . . .



The drive adapter fits like some flatlander CUSTOM DESIGNED IT!    hmmm, that thinkin' ahead thing again. . . . .       The problem is that the bolts I acquired for it are a smidgen too long – I thought the flywheel was tapped all the way through – not the case – so it’s off to whoever is open tomorrow.

I took my handy 4 ounce syringe and filled the oil galleries, poured some oil down through the lifters and finished the fill through the distributor hole.  I then loosened up the rockers, removed the plugs and gave it a crank with the drill.  Yeah, oil is flowing where it should be, so I went back to readjust the lifters and . . .  snap!  Now this was just one of those, “oh, for pity’s sake” moments . . .    Yes, unforseen consequences from small items. . . . . 


 

Fortunately, after the valve train tried to munch itself last September, I ordered up a complete set of adjusters, so I was able to dig out one of the spares, which for reasons completely out of character with my normal MO, were neatly tagged and bagged right where I had put them, and where I remembered I had put them.       isn't it nice to have good luck for a change??

But how was I going to get it out without removing the rocker shaft, which is held in place with head studs?

Well, after watching Fordboy use his ultra slick valve spring compressor last year, I went on E-bay and hunted down one for myself.  With a little adjustment, I was able to compress the valve side of the rocker and not even have to remove the shaft . . .     clever boy, have you been hanging out with the smart kids again??



The only thing better than having the right tool for the right job is having the wrong tool, but it works anyway.      it's called creative development. . . . .     

Midget,

I have returned from the cheddar-less plains of the Illini.   Sorry for the mark-up of your post, still a slow and crappy typist.

I have updated the dyno checklist, adding on packing the additional valve adjustment screws to the dyno session, you know, just in case. . . .       Pack and bring along anything you might wish to have at hand. . . . .    Will post the final version of the checklist tonight/tomorrow, after any progress of today.
 
Fordboy

[fordboy628]

Midget,

I hate to make predictions, it is too easy to get bitten in the a**, by a monkey or crocodile. . . . . .      but, here goes. . . . . . .

I'd be satisfied by the dyno session if:

1/   It stays together,
2/   No additional problems are discovered,
3/   We get all the testing we want to do finished,
4/   The BMEP is 190 psi or better,
5/   The corrected TQ is 76 lb/ft or better,
6/   The corrected Bhp is 95 bhp or better.

I know this is a long list, but as usual, I'm thinking long term.
 
Fordboy

[Milwaukee Midget]

Realistic goals can realistically be achieved.

And we're better prepared than most - thanks to your guidance and help.

We're on the same page, bro.

6/   The corrected Bhp is 95 bhp or better.

So we'll put you down as under. 

[Stainless1]

MM, don't bet to large with FB... you know the smart kids can figure out what to tell the dyno operator to use for correction factor to make the number anything he wants.... 

[Milwaukee Midget]

True - it wouldn't be the first time I was outsmarted by the "Smart Kids".

But Fordboy hates dynos that cheat.

Besides, if he wants a beer, all he has to do is ask . . .

 

[Queeziryder]

Chris & FB
Remember to take pen & paper to document all your changes ( DAMHIK ) in case the post dyno session beverage clouds the brain 

I'm on the just over FB and just under the 100 ( say a nice 98-99 corrected )
Best of luck

Neil

[Milwaukee Midget]

QR, FB's one step ahead of you.  He's setting up spread sheets for each run with notes.

Expect a HUGE INFO DUMP on this build diary before next weekend. 

[fordboy628]

QR, FB's one step ahead of you.  He's setting up spread sheets for each run with notes.

Expect a HUGE INFO DUMP on this build diary before next weekend. 

Midget, et all,

Well, now the cat is out of the bag, so to speak.    My plan was to surprise all the followers of your build diary with an improptu "How to Dyno your Engine" session, using the dyno info, the relational database spreadsheets and some analysis.    Sort of a parable (fable??) consisting of:  This is where we started and this is how (and more importantly, why) we got to where we ended up.    The idea was to outline how good engineering coupled with good planning and project management could positively impact a task of this nature.    The naked and unvarnished truth, the emporer without clothes, as such.    Sort of a "Benefit from our knowledge or stupidity" whichever the case may be.    Hopefully more of the former and less or none of the latter.

Stainless,    MM is right about one thing, I have absolutely no respect for dyno guys who manipulate the output numbers.   I equate them to used car salesmen and Catholic Cardinals. . . . . . .         Based on the weather/temperature forcast for 4/3/13, I expect the correction factor to move the corrected numbers down slightly from observed numbers.

I was going to bring some suds myself in anticipation of a celebration. . . . .

It is a fairly large & steep hill to climb on Wednesday, but I'm ready.

Guys, I'm bringing my portable cauldron (laptop) on dyno day.    Good news can come hot off the presses. . . . . . .
 
Fordboy

[saltwheels262]

I like stingy dynos.

[Stainless1]

FB, unless you have a Solid State Hard Drive on your laptop be very careful about where you are operating it.  I found out that most spinning hard drives do not respond well to acoustic vibration.  Luckily it rarely kills it permanently, just locks it up a little, only had it blue screen one.   
Looking forward to your dyno info

[Milwaukee Midget]

Midget, et all,

Well, now the cat is out of the bag, so to speak.    My plan was to surprise all the followers of your build diary with an improptu "How to Dyno your Engine" session, using the dyno info, the relational database spreadsheets and some analysis.    Sort of a parable (fable??) consisting of:  This is where we started and this is how (and more importantly, why) we got to where we ended up.    The idea was to outline how good engineering coupled with good planning and project management could positively impact a task of this nature.    The naked and unvarnished truth, the emporer without clothes, as such.    Sort of a "Benefit from our knowledge or stupidity" whichever the case may be.    Hopefully more of the former and less or none of the latter.

Sorry 'bout that - I guess I didn't know I was spoiling a surprise - although why ANYBODY would be surprised by reams of numbers at this point on this diary is a mystery to me. 

I’ve set up the motor mounts so we can just bolt up - a couple of 3/8 or 5/16 bolts will get that done, and we won't have to drill anything on campus - but I am bringing along the drill, just in case.

Monday will require a quick trip to the hardware store to acquire one last pipe reducer for water, and 6 properly sized bolts for the drive adapter.

I found my collector pipe, but it turns out that it's 1 7/8" rather than 2", so I'll be doing a bit of a scramble on that.

I cut some washers in half to step the header/manifold bolts - should be able to get it all close enough.

The following is packed -

Tool box
Bungees for air box support
Spare spark plugs
Valve spring compressor, magnetic probe, extra valve spring shims, valve springs and forceps
Pipe expander
Torque wrench, wrenches, screw drivers, Allen wrenches, all my spare carby parts, fire extinguisher, extra studs and fasteners, extra manifold gaskets (2)
Colortune, timing light, feeler gauges, air adapter for spark plug hole to change out valve springs
Computer w/ spare power supply, spare battery and connection cable

Just a heads up - I can't find my 11mm combination wrench.   
 

[wisdonm]

I can't find my 11mm combination wrench.

I can cover that.