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Author Topic: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes  (Read 40352 times)

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Offline Stan Back

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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2012, 03:20:47 PM »
You're not way off -- you're just way out in front.
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2012, 03:30:31 PM »
The American Iron roadster class was put forward by Mike Spacek in answer to the question - where have all the EM entries gone? He was able to convince some voters that there are many, many of these roadsters sitting around because the cost to run one and be
competitive in the current classes is too high.

Please notice that the rules require that the entries be current with the safety rules - costly? I am unsure of how he will be able to ascertain that the engine meets his requirements beyond asking that the entrant supply supporting documentation. Mike was able to circulate a petition among roadster racers in support of this proposal, I don't think anyone that signed the petition cares about the future issues with this new class. They will be the first to scream about too many classes.

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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2012, 03:41:09 PM »
The part I didn't understand is the cars ARE allowed to run now.  And if they get 20 entries (ha!), only one will be the record holder -- the others will be also-rans (and I know how that feels).

I think upgrade estimates may be soft, too.  And the first guy who builds a 33-34 with an almost-late-model engine will discourage the rest -- unless they just like running -- which they can now.
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2012, 04:16:46 PM »
My point Stan, thank you.

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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2012, 07:44:12 PM »
Okaaaay.... the new rules for motorcycles have been boldified.

... and the cars too.

Look for nice printable, downloadable PDF versions on the LR.com home page, http://www.landracing.com
« Last Edit: November 27, 2012, 08:23:34 PM by bobc »
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2012, 10:21:38 PM »
The American Iron roadster class should have gone farther than just OEM heads and block. it should have included OEM rockers, intake, crank, etc. Or a claimer on the motor.

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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2012, 10:30:21 PM »
The American Iron roadster class should have gone farther than just OEM heads and block. it should have included OEM rockers, intake, crank, etc. Or a claimer on the motor.

Tom G.

Why, would you run the class or just pick at it?

From someone who agrees with Dan on the future of said class.
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2012, 10:41:51 PM »
Why, would you run the class or just pick at it?


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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2012, 11:03:10 PM »
You're not way off -- you're just way out in front.

Just seems that special clause that permits big blocks into the class doubles the costs.  And then some.



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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2012, 11:07:44 PM »
Why, would you run the class or just pick at it?


Someone looking for a low 2 club minimum or a future EM championship  :|

That would be fine if it was Tom running a car instead of his .....  nevermind    :-o
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2012, 11:56:32 PM »
Okay, the record I'm running on is ~122.  Typically on a rookie pass, it's my understanding that the starter wants you to take it easy, and won't okay you to run until you've demonstrated you know how to follow instructions.

Will the course steward still be asking us slower guys to keep our foot out of it on a rookie pass?  While it would be rude and only serve to aggravate somebody, if I'm asked to keep it under 100 on a rookie pass and ignore that direction, and clock an otherwise clean drive at 123, am I going to get sent down?  Or has the SCTA accidently codified a new minimum maximum, overruling the traditional understanding?

If I can do it in 2, I'll be happy to save the wear and tear on the car.
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2012, 12:08:22 AM »
I could be very wrong as it may apply only to El Mirage but I don't think you can set a record on your rookie run.
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2012, 12:25:17 AM »
Umm... what's with rule 3.E? Absolutely no "open cars" to run after the 2013 season? :?
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2012, 12:26:26 AM »
Okay, the record I'm running on is ~122.  Typically on a rookie pass, it's my understanding that the starter wants you to take it easy, and won't okay you to run until you've demonstrated you know how to follow instructions.

Will the course steward still be asking us slower guys to keep our foot out of it on a rookie pass?  While it would be rude and only serve to aggravate somebody, if I'm asked to keep it under 100 on a rookie pass and ignore that direction, and clock an otherwise clean drive at 123, am I going to get sent down?  Or has the SCTA accidently codified a new minimum maximum, overruling the traditional understanding?

If I can do it in 2, I'll be happy to save the wear and tear on the car.
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Re: 2013 Bike and Car rule changes
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2012, 12:31:31 AM »
Umm... what's with rule 3.E? Absolutely no "open cars" to run after the 2013 season? :?
no, like it says you have to have a rear floor or aft  bulkhead. There were a number of cars with the driver exposed to fire coming from under the car and up into the drivers compartment from behind.
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